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		<title>By: Robert Bravery</title>
		<link>http://blog.afrigator.com/2009/09/21/blog-ranking-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-2879</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Bravery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 19:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Determining a blogs popularity is so difficult. For links even more so. What happens if there are links to ones blog outside of Afrigators universe. Does that mean it is not a top blog.

Also what is popularity, 1000 backlinks, or 20 000 page views a month. Back links are one time. So I can have a 10000 links in Feb of 1994, but none since and only has 500 page views now. Is that blog considered more popular than one who has 1000 recent links and 30 000 views a month , consistently for the last year or more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Determining a blogs popularity is so difficult. For links even more so. What happens if there are links to ones blog outside of Afrigators universe. Does that mean it is not a top blog.</p>
<p>Also what is popularity, 1000 backlinks, or 20 000 page views a month. Back links are one time. So I can have a 10000 links in Feb of 1994, but none since and only has 500 page views now. Is that blog considered more popular than one who has 1000 recent links and 30 000 views a month , consistently for the last year or more.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://blog.afrigator.com/2009/09/21/blog-ranking-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-2866</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 06:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is Ok but backlink is very important in determining a site&#039;s popularity.</description>
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		<title>By: Yomi Adegboye &#187; Another Look at Blogging</title>
		<link>http://blog.afrigator.com/2009/09/21/blog-ranking-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-2734</link>
		<dc:creator>Yomi Adegboye &#187; Another Look at Blogging</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] easy for bloggers to get sidetracked in trying to get high rankings. I have the recent uproar over a temporary change in Afrigator&#8217;s ranking algorithm in mind [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] easy for bloggers to get sidetracked in trying to get high rankings. I have the recent uproar over a temporary change in Afrigator&#8217;s ranking algorithm in mind [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Oluniyi David Ajao</title>
		<link>http://blog.afrigator.com/2009/09/21/blog-ranking-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-2730</link>
		<dc:creator>Oluniyi David Ajao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 09:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Truth About Afrigator Rankings...&lt;/strong&gt;

A recent temporary change in algorithm for blogs ranking by Africa&#8217;s most authoritative blogs aggregator attracted a lot of debate and suggestions. After complaints by bloggers, Afrigator soon made a formal announcement via their blog: Blog ranki...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Truth About Afrigator Rankings&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>A recent temporary change in algorithm for blogs ranking by Africa&#8217;s most authoritative blogs aggregator attracted a lot of debate and suggestions. After complaints by bloggers, Afrigator soon made a formal announcement via their blog: Blog ranki&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Chris M</title>
		<link>http://blog.afrigator.com/2009/09/21/blog-ranking-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-2704</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a tricky one Wonkie, because Afrigator won&#039;t be able to take that into account, unless they can integrate with Feedburner somehow and then it&#039;s a little unfair on those who don&#039;t use feedburner. I feel your pain though, I just don&#039;t think there&#039;s a way for them to take this into account :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a tricky one Wonkie, because Afrigator won&#8217;t be able to take that into account, unless they can integrate with Feedburner somehow and then it&#8217;s a little unfair on those who don&#8217;t use feedburner. I feel your pain though, I just don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s a way for them to take this into account <img src='http://blog.afrigator.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Wonkie</title>
		<link>http://blog.afrigator.com/2009/09/21/blog-ranking-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-2703</link>
		<dc:creator>Wonkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris that doesn&#039;t make sense - the 2 appear to be mutually exclusive when they should be correlated (which is an important oversight assuming an afrigator rank actually considers the number of people reading a blog!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris that doesn&#8217;t make sense &#8211; the 2 appear to be mutually exclusive when they should be correlated (which is an important oversight assuming an afrigator rank actually considers the number of people reading a blog!)</p>
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		<title>By: Chris M</title>
		<link>http://blog.afrigator.com/2009/09/21/blog-ranking-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-2702</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s unlucky :D

What do you value more, a lot of feedreaders or a high rank on Afrigator?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s unlucky <img src='http://blog.afrigator.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>What do you value more, a lot of feedreaders or a high rank on Afrigator?</p>
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		<title>By: Wonkie</title>
		<link>http://blog.afrigator.com/2009/09/21/blog-ranking-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-2699</link>
		<dc:creator>Wonkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stii - just a quick point I want to raise with you again re incorporating feed subscribers in some way into your ranking and tracking please - Wonkie now has over 5000 daily readers through confirmed google feedburner email subscriptions practically none of which will be captured through the current Afrigator daily tracking stats (only those feed readers who actually click through to the site from the email feed to enter a comment would be recorded)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stii &#8211; just a quick point I want to raise with you again re incorporating feed subscribers in some way into your ranking and tracking please &#8211; Wonkie now has over 5000 daily readers through confirmed google feedburner email subscriptions practically none of which will be captured through the current Afrigator daily tracking stats (only those feed readers who actually click through to the site from the email feed to enter a comment would be recorded)</p>
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		<title>By: Chris M</title>
		<link>http://blog.afrigator.com/2009/09/21/blog-ranking-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-2689</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 08:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From what I can tell, everything is back to how it was before this thread..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what I can tell, everything is back to how it was before this thread..</p>
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		<title>By: Carlos Serra</title>
		<link>http://blog.afrigator.com/2009/09/21/blog-ranking-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-2685</link>
		<dc:creator>Carlos Serra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 16:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My site, written in portuguese and number 1 in Mozambique, is now out of the ranking. Also due to the changes? Regards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My site, written in portuguese and number 1 in Mozambique, is now out of the ranking. Also due to the changes? Regards.</p>
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		<title>By: Emmanuel.K.Bensah Jr.</title>
		<link>http://blog.afrigator.com/2009/09/21/blog-ranking-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-2681</link>
		<dc:creator>Emmanuel.K.Bensah Jr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 17:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many thanks, Stii, for making clarifications on my blog. Much appreciated; now await with bated breath on the future from hereonin...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many thanks, Stii, for making clarifications on my blog. Much appreciated; now await with bated breath on the future from hereonin&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Bravery</title>
		<link>http://blog.afrigator.com/2009/09/21/blog-ranking-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-2674</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Bravery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 20:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great Stii, I appreciate what you do. But how do you account for, if at all, for links from outside the Afrigator universe. There are some great blogs out there that perhaps peers linking to them, but perhaps they are not in Africa or registered with Afrigator.
I believe that one needs to qualify you ranking, just so that things are clear. I&#039;m sure it will clear up a lot of missunderstandings</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Stii, I appreciate what you do. But how do you account for, if at all, for links from outside the Afrigator universe. There are some great blogs out there that perhaps peers linking to them, but perhaps they are not in Africa or registered with Afrigator.<br />
I believe that one needs to qualify you ranking, just so that things are clear. I&#8217;m sure it will clear up a lot of missunderstandings</p>
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		<title>By: Chris M</title>
		<link>http://blog.afrigator.com/2009/09/21/blog-ranking-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-2672</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brilliant Stii, now when you look at the top 20, there are some great blogs there. Naturally I&#039;m going to be biased because mine&#039;s there, but that&#039;s simply a by-product :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant Stii, now when you look at the top 20, there are some great blogs there. Naturally I&#8217;m going to be biased because mine&#8217;s there, but that&#8217;s simply a by-product <img src='http://blog.afrigator.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Stii Pretorius</title>
		<link>http://blog.afrigator.com/2009/09/21/blog-ranking-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-2670</link>
		<dc:creator>Stii Pretorius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 09:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI, sanity is restored. I&#039;m still working on improvements and tweaks to get it better.

Just a note on the linking. Our reason behind this was that if you write good posts and your peers link to you, it is an indication of authority. If you get craploads of traffic of which most is bounced visits, it does not mean that you&#039;re very authoritative and it means the system can easily be fooled into thinking you&#039;re popular. We&#039;re trying to avoid that by taking a number of things into account to get the best mix.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI, sanity is restored. I&#8217;m still working on improvements and tweaks to get it better.</p>
<p>Just a note on the linking. Our reason behind this was that if you write good posts and your peers link to you, it is an indication of authority. If you get craploads of traffic of which most is bounced visits, it does not mean that you&#8217;re very authoritative and it means the system can easily be fooled into thinking you&#8217;re popular. We&#8217;re trying to avoid that by taking a number of things into account to get the best mix.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Bravery</title>
		<link>http://blog.afrigator.com/2009/09/21/blog-ranking-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-2669</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Bravery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 13:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Chris,

Ah, that makes it more specific. I would then suggest that the ranking should be qualified some how. For, there could be back links from blogs that are rated highly via some other method that are not registered on Afrigator.
Perhaps a more Qualified Afrigator Ranking, &quot;Top 20 blogs in the Afrigator Universes&quot; or something similar. This then gives some kind of context to the ranking system. Although it is infered, being more specific, will ease the hearts of those who are generally ranked higher on other systems but not so on Afrigator.

What do you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chris,</p>
<p>Ah, that makes it more specific. I would then suggest that the ranking should be qualified some how. For, there could be back links from blogs that are rated highly via some other method that are not registered on Afrigator.<br />
Perhaps a more Qualified Afrigator Ranking, &#8220;Top 20 blogs in the Afrigator Universes&#8221; or something similar. This then gives some kind of context to the ranking system. Although it is infered, being more specific, will ease the hearts of those who are generally ranked higher on other systems but not so on Afrigator.</p>
<p>What do you think?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris M</title>
		<link>http://blog.afrigator.com/2009/09/21/blog-ranking-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-2668</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 11:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Robert - I am referring to backlinks from other blogs that are indexed with Afrigator, not just any backlinks - Sorry, I should have been more specific..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Robert &#8211; I am referring to backlinks from other blogs that are indexed with Afrigator, not just any backlinks &#8211; Sorry, I should have been more specific..</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Bravery</title>
		<link>http://blog.afrigator.com/2009/09/21/blog-ranking-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-2667</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Bravery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 08:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris and Manga,

I think your both wrong and right in some areas. Most certainly a back links to a blog is a vote of confidence in the blog, but it certainly does not determine whether a blog is crappy or not. Chris your years of experience in this field should tell you as much.
In fact, one can buy links, if you have enough money. How does that then make your blog better than any other.
Anyway, what backlinks are counted. Only ones from Afrigator member, hardly a fair ranking of the popularity of the blog.
What&#039;s crappy to one is pure pleasure to another. It&#039;s the viewpoint of the reader.
Yes one can also buy traffic. This is why there is no right or wrong way. Afrigators algorithm and their ranking does not mean that this is the absolute scientific result of the top 20 blogs. 

Manga, traffic is indeed a huge player when it comes to the popularity of a blog. But these can also be manipulated. I believe that Afrigator need to upgrade it&#039;s a;algorithm, not only this time but on a regular basis as new factor present themselves and as they themselves, the Afrigator team. learn more.
The point is, as I said before, the Afrigator ranking is not the be all and end all of a blogs rank. To get an accurate idea, one needs to take into account many other different factors as well as other ranking systems.

AS an example many blogs have a higher Afrigator ranking than mine, but mine has a way higher Alexa ranking, or Compete or Quintcast. You see it&#039;s all a matter of view point.

Lets just hope that the guys at Afrigator can get closer this time round. THen start working on it again for the nest iteration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris and Manga,</p>
<p>I think your both wrong and right in some areas. Most certainly a back links to a blog is a vote of confidence in the blog, but it certainly does not determine whether a blog is crappy or not. Chris your years of experience in this field should tell you as much.<br />
In fact, one can buy links, if you have enough money. How does that then make your blog better than any other.<br />
Anyway, what backlinks are counted. Only ones from Afrigator member, hardly a fair ranking of the popularity of the blog.<br />
What&#8217;s crappy to one is pure pleasure to another. It&#8217;s the viewpoint of the reader.<br />
Yes one can also buy traffic. This is why there is no right or wrong way. Afrigators algorithm and their ranking does not mean that this is the absolute scientific result of the top 20 blogs. </p>
<p>Manga, traffic is indeed a huge player when it comes to the popularity of a blog. But these can also be manipulated. I believe that Afrigator need to upgrade it&#8217;s a;algorithm, not only this time but on a regular basis as new factor present themselves and as they themselves, the Afrigator team. learn more.<br />
The point is, as I said before, the Afrigator ranking is not the be all and end all of a blogs rank. To get an accurate idea, one needs to take into account many other different factors as well as other ranking systems.</p>
<p>AS an example many blogs have a higher Afrigator ranking than mine, but mine has a way higher Alexa ranking, or Compete or Quintcast. You see it&#8217;s all a matter of view point.</p>
<p>Lets just hope that the guys at Afrigator can get closer this time round. THen start working on it again for the nest iteration.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris M</title>
		<link>http://blog.afrigator.com/2009/09/21/blog-ranking-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-2663</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should then easily be able to agree that an algorithm which takes traffic and links into account would be better than one which just takes traffic into account - the more determinants, the better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should then easily be able to agree that an algorithm which takes traffic and links into account would be better than one which just takes traffic into account &#8211; the more determinants, the better.</p>
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		<title>By: Manga</title>
		<link>http://blog.afrigator.com/2009/09/21/blog-ranking-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-2662</link>
		<dc:creator>Manga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi again Chris,

I don&#039;t have any problem with the use of any algorithm to determine blog rankings. However, I still insist that no amount of Algorithm can to determine what the &quot;Best&quot; blogs are. From where I stand a blog&#039;s quality is determined by content, interface design, etc., and not by abstract algorithms which serve a different purpose. 

So it is not the place of Afrigator to weed out &quot;rubbish blogs&quot; from its rankings or to skew the results in such a way that the blogs it considers &quot;rubbish&quot; (based on content, written by bloggers out of SA/Africa?) will be excluded. If that were the case, then the rankings would serve absolutely no value. 

Anyway, let&#039;s agree to disagree on this one without being disagreable.

I&#039;m done with the issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi again Chris,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have any problem with the use of any algorithm to determine blog rankings. However, I still insist that no amount of Algorithm can to determine what the &#8220;Best&#8221; blogs are. From where I stand a blog&#8217;s quality is determined by content, interface design, etc., and not by abstract algorithms which serve a different purpose. </p>
<p>So it is not the place of Afrigator to weed out &#8220;rubbish blogs&#8221; from its rankings or to skew the results in such a way that the blogs it considers &#8220;rubbish&#8221; (based on content, written by bloggers out of SA/Africa?) will be excluded. If that were the case, then the rankings would serve absolutely no value. </p>
<p>Anyway, let&#8217;s agree to disagree on this one without being disagreable.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m done with the issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris M</title>
		<link>http://blog.afrigator.com/2009/09/21/blog-ranking-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-2661</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Manga - So you&#039;re happy with Afrigator representing Africa&#039;s blogsphere with a top 10 list of rubbish blogs? Don&#039;t be silly.

The point here is that traffic alone or links alone or page rank alone is not sufficient and therefore an algorithm is used to encompas all these factors in such a way to get a good mix between traffic, links, authoriry amongst other things. Taking all these factors into account presents us with a far better list of blogs.

I have been blogging for 10 years and have won blog awards on more than one occasion, I&#039;m well experienced in this field..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Manga &#8211; So you&#8217;re happy with Afrigator representing Africa&#8217;s blogsphere with a top 10 list of rubbish blogs? Don&#8217;t be silly.</p>
<p>The point here is that traffic alone or links alone or page rank alone is not sufficient and therefore an algorithm is used to encompas all these factors in such a way to get a good mix between traffic, links, authoriry amongst other things. Taking all these factors into account presents us with a far better list of blogs.</p>
<p>I have been blogging for 10 years and have won blog awards on more than one occasion, I&#8217;m well experienced in this field..</p>
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